Rudy:

Is out there a fix for this issue yet ?

Welcome, Rudy. Sorry to hear that you're having this same issue with your Treo Pro - the fix was supposed to have been delivered to manufacturers in WM builds later than AKU 1.2.6. I would have thought that your Treo Pro would have a newer build that contained the fix. Could you check the ROM version and let us know? Also, which edition of the Treo Pro do you have - US carrier, or unlocked? Thanks!

thanks.

I have the unlocked version, the ROM is 1.01.

Thanks. 

Hi Machado, thanks for your report.

I am sorry to say that this does not help the majority of helpless WM 6.1 users in this thread at all. To repeat for all newcomers searching for help here: Machado has a WM 6.1 with AKU build of 1.2.6 or later. The problem discussed here has been solved in this version. But the users looking for help here, do NOT have this version !

As for customers of O2: they still do not offer an updated software version on their website. I can only WARN EVERYBODY to not install the offered Windows Mobile Professional 6.1 AKU 1.2.3, because this will disable the PDA to sync with 2 PCs !

I had WM 6 on my XDA Orbit 2 when I purchased it. That worked totally well in synching my PDA with 2 PCs. Since I installed the O2 update to WM 6.1 I can no longer sync with 2 PCs, which is really disturbing my professional needs.

 Hi brente, thanks for the explanation but i still have some doubts .  With my WM6.1 AKU 1.3.3 i had at least 1 month of the same problem. Even when i tried to resync only or repartnership the problem persisted and  the 86000107 code was still flashing in my screen. In fact, is very strange that some of us are achieving sucess after many  procedures and some are not. Maybe it is related to the AKU version but than i ask : why was i having the problem for 1 month even after trying many procedures with this same AKU ? the problem has gone away only after all procedures i described before. Anyway, I agree with you, the WM6.1 is not a good upgrade for anybody !!!

I have a HTC Tytn II--the same problems with syncing with 2 computers (really wish I hadn't upgraded to 6.1!!!!).

 I rang HTC--they say they don't have the fix yet which seems strange as they are a major manufacturer.

 Does anyone out there have any word on a fix from HTC or from MS?

Or alternatively does anyone know how I can downgrade to 6.0 (HTC said they couldn't supply with a downgrade)?

 Downgrading should be easy enough, it's just trying to find the official ROM for your location. Where are you, what language would you be looking for? I think I still have a WWE version of the Tytn II ROM for WM6.

I'm in Australia and English.

BUT, I bought the phone cheap off the net. And discovered when I got it (and then rang HTC) that the phone came from Italy.

 So not sure what that means. I really don't want everything to be in Italian

Thanks for your help

Hmm..... I'm not sure where you stand.  The italian ROM would usually support Italian AND English (I think) and your device might be region locked to Italian. Unless of course you have a standard WWE ROM? If you look in Start - Settings - System, in either information or about does it tell you what ROM language it is?

ROM version: 3.34.721.2 WWE

ROM date: 09/30/08

Radio Version: 1.70.19.09

Protocol Version: 25.83.40.02M

 Hope that helps a bit.

 I have had no evidence of Italian as I'm using it, except on the physical slide out keyboard where some keys are in Italian.

 Thanks for your help--really appreciate it.

Hi babbling and Dave,
your discussion sounds interesting. I never heard of a WM ROM which allows switching the language of the user interface. Mine is 3.13.207.0 GER and seems to speak German only.

 As I posted earlier, my XDA Orbit 2 can no longer sync with 2 PCs. It is an HTC product, but branded by O2. O2 said that they would check the necessity of a fix, but never did so. At least there is no ROM update available until now. Later they said that they cannot provide a downgrade to WM 6. For professional reasons I urgently need to sync with 2 PCs.

Dave, do you have a suggestion for me what to do ?
Where can I get a WM 6 ROM downgrade ?
Or: can I replace my WM 6.1 by the coming WM 6.5, and would that solve the problem ?

Thanks for helping

babbling:

ROM version: 3.34.721.2 WWE

ROM date: 09/30/08

Radio Version: 1.70.19.09

Protocol Version: 25.83.40.02M

 Hope that helps a bit.

 I have had no evidence of Italian as I'm using it, except on the physical slide out keyboard where some keys are in Italian.

 Thanks for your help--really appreciate it.

The WWE means that it's English (I can't remember what the WW is. Some people think it's "World Wide" but I have a feeling I've heard somewhere else that this is incorrect). So you should have no issues upgrading(downgrading essentially) using the WWE TytnII English ROM I have. I'll see if I can dig it out for you.

I think a lot of the ROMs support their local language and to a certain extent English. I've used a Scandanavian ROM (In English) quite happily in the past. Not all ROMs are like this however, so I wouldn't bet on it. O2 customise thier ROMs quite heavily so I wouldn't be too shocked if the DE O2 ROM was German only.

I'd forget WM6.5 unless you use a cooked ROM and I wouldn't advise that. As much as anything it'll invalidate your warranty (not too mention being illegal). You should be able to use a WM6 Orbit 2 ROM, I THINK there was one. I'll see if I can find one.

Dave Parker MVP:

 

babbling:

ROM version: 3.34.721.2 WWE

ROM date: 09/30/08

Radio Version: 1.70.19.09

Protocol Version: 25.83.40.02M

 Hope that helps a bit.

 I have had no evidence of Italian as I'm using it, except on the physical slide out keyboard where some keys are in Italian.

 Thanks for your help--really appreciate it.

 

The WWE means that it's English (I can't remember what the WW is. Some people think it's "World Wide" but I have a feeling I've heard somewhere else that this is incorrect). So you should have no issues upgrading(downgrading essentially) using the WWE TytnII English ROM I have. I'll see if I can dig it out for you.

Before tackling the problem, let me first concentrate on useless trivia!    According to various MS KB articles, like this one:  http://support.microsoft.com/kb/185086, WWE does stand for World Wide English (presumably to differentiate it from localized English versions, e.g. US, UK, etc.)

Now, to the problem at hand.  I have a TyTn II, in my case a US-version, sold by AT&T as the "Tilt."  When I bought it (used) it had a generic HTC ROM on it, and all the keyboard keys were in the wrong places!  I suspect the Italian version might have the same problem- an English ROM might put the keys in the wrong places compared to the silkscreened labels on the buttons.

For me, one of the greatest strength of Windows Mobile is the large amount of available third-party software.  Rather than change ROMs, perhaps changing sync software makes more sense?  I "fired" Activesync as my sync solution a year ago, and switched to the SyncML-based, open-source Funambol software.   A post offering a little more detail about Funambol, written by a particularly pithy and devilishly handsome fellow, is here: http://www.windowsmobiletraining.com/Connection/forums/p/2058/7317.aspx#7317, but essentially, it's software plug-in you install on your Outlook PCs and Windows Mobile devices that both sync over the interwebs to a Funambol server, like a generic form of Exchange Server.  It also supports non Windows Mobile devices, so it's also a good way to keep "dumbphones" in sync as well, or as a tool to migrate contacts from non WinMo devices to WinMo devices when upgrading.  (You could certainly use Hosted Exchange as well, but I hate to reward any vendor's buggy software with a purchase of more of their software as a work around!  Hosted Exchange runs about $100-150 US/year.  Funambol is free.)

The only things Funambol doesn't handle (or handle well) is files and favorites sync. For files, I simply use MS' Live Mesh, which is infinitely more configurable and powerful than Activesync/WMDC (you can select multiple folders, storage card folders, etc.), and works over the air.  Favorites sync is just something I've learned to live without (I never really used it much anyway except when changing devices, as a tool to copy my mobile favorites from the old one to the new one.  These days I just use a file explorer like Total Commander on the device to zip the favorites into one archive file, email or beam it to the next device, then unpack the archive in the right folder.)

In addition to the occasional Activesync headaches, my impetus to switch was a need to sync to more than two computers (in my case, three) and a desire for returning to wireless syncing via WiFi or cellular like Activesync allowed prior to Windows Mobile 5/AS 4.x.  Funambol handles both these situations.  Plus, since the devices all speak to the server, rather than to each other, you no longer have to rely on the mobile as a "bridge" to keeping the PCs in sync.  Changes on one PC will be reflected on the other, just like with Exchange.  When I used to sync my device to two PCs, changes synced between PC1 and the device wouldn't show up on PC2 until my next sync with it.  With a server-based solution, all connected devices stay in sync regardless of where they are physically.  One of my Outlook PCs is a cheap Asus netbook I only use when traveling.  Outlook might not get booted for a month or two, but the minute I boot Outlook, I connect to the Funambol server (assuming the netbook is online!) and it's automatically updated to have the same PIM data as my continuously used desktop or laptop.  

For those who've never used Windows Mobile with Exchange, or older versions in the wireless sync era, you can't imagine the power and convenience of "set and forget" syncing, and not EVER having to know where your cradle/cable is!

Todd Allcock:

Rather than change ROMs, perhaps changing sync software makes more sense?

Thanks for the reminder about this alternative sync strategy, Todd!